For my last post, I'm going to take a shot at one of the media's favorite people: Ben Roethlisberger.
Now I know what everyone is thinking, the guy is clutch! The guy has 2 rings! The guy has an uncanny scrambling ability! He belongs up there with Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I'll prove all of these things wrong.
To say Ben Roethlisberger is on the same level assumes he's a top 5 QB. So I'm going to dispell that notion. Arguably right now the top QBs in the NFL are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, Eli Manning, Michael Vick and Ben Roethlisberger. What I am going to do here is compare all 10 stat by stat and determine who's the best. I am going to use career numbers, averaged by the number of career starts to prove my position so that everyone is on fair ground. Let's begin.
Starts for each player:
P. Manning-224
E. Manning-103
Brady-143
Rodgers-47
Brees-137
Rivers-80
Ryan-46
Romo-61
Vick-80
Roethlisberger-98
Touchdown Passes Per Game
1.Romo-1.93
2.Rodgers-1.85
3.Brady-1.83
4.P. Manning-1.78
5.Brees-1.72
6.Rivers-1.7
7.E. Manning-1.51
8.Roethlisberger-1.47
9.Ryan-1.43
10.Vick-1.16
Interceptions Per Game
1.Rodgers-.68
2.Brady-.72
2.Rivers-.72
2.Vick-.72
5.Ryan-.74
6.Roethlisberger-.88
6.P. Manning-.88
8.Brees-.96
9.Romo-1.02
10.E. Manning-1.1
Completion Percentage (Career)
1.Brees-65.2%
2.P. Manning-64.9%
3.Rodgers-64.4%
4.Romo-64.1%
5.Rivers-63.7%
6.Brady-63.6%
7.Roethlisberger-63.1%
8.Ryan-60.8%
9.E. Manning-58.0%
10.Vick-55.3%
Yards Per Game
1.Romo-272.95
2.Rodgers-270.7
3.Brees-257.42
4.Rivers-245.76
5.P. Manning-244.77
6.Brady-242.97
7.Roethlisberger-229.61
8.E. Manning-219.86
9.Ryan-218.72
10.Vick-182.61
Yards Per Completion
1.Roethlisberger-12.74
2.Rivers-12.57
3.Romo-12.56
4.Vick-12.5
5.Rodgers-12.26
6.E. Manning-11.72
7.P. Manning-11.71
8.Brady-11.6
9.Ryan-11.37
10.Brees-11.21
QB Rating
1.Rodgers-98.4
2.Rivers-97.2
3.Romo-95.5
4.Brady-95.2
5.P. Manning-94.9
6.Roethlisberger-92.5
7.Brees-91.7
8.Ryan-86.9
9.E. Manning-80.2
9.Vick-80.2
Rush Yards Per Game
1.Vick-57.88
2.Rodgers-19.7
3.Roethlisberger-8.92
4.Romo-6.77
5.Ryan-5.98
6.Brady-4.24
7.Brees-3.5
8.E. Manning-3.4
9.Rivers-3.27
10.P. Manning-3.22
Rush Yards Per Carry
1.Vick-7.1
2.Rodgers-4.9
3.Roethlisberger-3.3
4.Romo-3.0
5.E. Manning-2.2
6.P. Manning-2.1
7.Ryan-2.1
8.Brady-1.8
8.Brees-1.8
10.Rivers-1.6
Rush Touchdowns Per Game
1.Vick-.40
2.Rodgers-.28
3.Roethlisberger-.14
4.P. Manning-.08
5.Brady-.05
5.Brees-.05
5.Romo-.05
8.Ryan-.04
9.E. Manning-.03
10.Rivers-.02
Fumbles Per Game
1.P. Manning-.08
2.Ryan-.13
3.Brees-.19
4.Roethlisberger-.21
5.Brady-.22
6.Rodgers-.23
7.Rivers-.24
8.E. Manning-.26
8.Romo-.26
10.Vick-.38
Total Turnovers Per Game
1.Ryan-.87
2.Rodgers-.91
3.Brady-.94
4.Rivers-.96
4.P. Manning-.96
6.Roethlisberger-1.09
7.Vick-1.1
8.Brees-1.15
9.Romo-1.28
10.E. Manning-1.36
Total Touchdowns Per Game
1.Rodgers-2.13
2.Romo-1.98
3.Brady-1.87
4.P. Manning-1.86
5.Brees-1.77
6.Rivers-1.73
7.Roethlisberger-1.61
8.Vick-1.56
9.E. Manning-1.54
10.Ryan-1.48
Average Scores-
Rodgers-2.24
Romo-4.48
P.Manning-4.83
Brady-4.92
Roethlisberger-5.08
Rivers-5.58
Brees-5.83
Vick-6.08
Ryan-6.75
E. Manning-8.17
So Big Ben is top 5 if you include rushing, but let's take a look at just purely passing ranks.
Rodgers-2.33
Rivers-3.5
Romo-3.55
P.Manning-4.83
Brady-4.83
Brees-5.67
Roethlisberger-5.83
Vick-7.5
Ryan-8
E.Manning-8.17
So as far as passing he's not even top 5. He ranks 7th. Elite? And this is less than 1/3 of the league.
So I know what you're thinking. "Mike! He's clutch! Come on! He's got 2 Super Bowl rings!"
Funny you should say that...
Big Ben has probably the worst statistics of any winning Super Bowl QB. He didn't help his team win very much, let's see the scoring breakdown for the Steelers in their 2 SBs
TDs with Roethlisberger accounting for points
Roesthlisberger-1 rush TD, 1 pass TD
Total: 14 points in 2 games
TDs without Roethlisberger
W. Parker-1 rush TD
H. Ward-1 rec TD
A. Randle El-1 pass TD
J. Reed-2 FG
G. Russell-1 rush TD
J. Harrison-1 Def TD
Total: 34 points in 2 games
Big Ben also accounted for 3 INTs in those 2 games. So 1 pass TD, 1 rush TD, 3 INTs in 2 games. Is that "clutch" or is that "game manager"? I know he scored the game winning TD in the 2nd Super Bowl, but it should't have taken him that long to throw 1 TD in the Super Bowl. Plus Holmes deserves as much credit as Roethlisberger for that play. The pass was off target, Holmes made a fantastic play. Ben is a very good QB, but he's not top 5 and he's not elite. He's got some glaring holes that will always keep him from being considered elite in my eyes. Also this whole "clutch" business needs addressing.
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